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Re: Inferno marketing vs. Java marketing



Toshi,

Spam out

Even technical types occasionally like to pretend that we're the next Bill-man

If you read this list you'll see that for everyone of these types of
messages there are plenty of purely technical issues to be discussed. Such
as is there going to be a standardized native Inferno for PC's-- and if so
--what does it and the platform look like

By the way -- If you build it they will come --doesn't work except in the
movies -- you've  got to market it

ted kochanski


At 07:17 PM 1/29/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Are there any technical only Inferno mailing lists?
>
>I'm a little weary of being spammed by market positioning strategy and 
>otherwise non-technical debate.
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>Toshi
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>> > > Microsoft is fighting the last war
>> > 
>> > This is a common assertion, but beyond sounding catchy when delivered by
>> > McNealy and Ellison, it has little merit.   It presumes that one can just
>> > ignore what's going on in the mass market under the mistaken impression
>> > that other markets can ignore it.  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > Microsoft is very weak when it comes to connecting to the real world
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Really?  In what way?  You mean that NT and 95 aren't good clients?  You
>> > mean that the best browsers come out for other platforms first?  
>> > 
>> 
>> I agree to this argument. I think we are too much worried about
>> someone else's shortfalls.
>> 
>> I have been watching the developments on Inferno for quite sometime.
>> 
>> The reality is, right now the industry is a little confused
>> because the people are convinced that C++ wont last for long.
>> But they also hesitate to lean on Java for industry-strength
>> products because of its shortfalls. In a discussion with a 
>> compiler guy I found that Limbo is a technically superior language
>> that could give a more compact executable.
>> 
>> Probably what Lucent has to do is do some market stirring and convince
>> the media that Inferno is going to be the best solution. Atleast
>> that will make the companies decide on Inferno and Limbo. 
>> 
>> Also, I found that the web site is not updated properly.
>> For the past 6 months I am seeing :"Coming Soon! Bulletin Board. 
>> Watch this space!" , etc. and I dont see any change happening
>> there. Today it only looks like Lucent is doing a hesitated launch. Already
>> the magazine reviews (I read them thru Lucent's web links) say
>> it is too late for Lucent to launch Inferno. If Sun survived by 
>> making some hype on Java,  why not Lucent do it too? After all, we have a 
>> good product in hand. My feeling is that media coverage is very 
>> less and such a good product should not go unnoticed.
>> 
>> Unix was literally side-lined with such lack of marketing strength.
>> We must not have another classic product experience the same problem.
>> 
>> Regards
>> dharani
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                        Ted
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